tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post4206659713876979787..comments2024-03-19T11:28:58.168-04:00Comments on History Unfolding: The Controversy over the 1619 Project rages onDavid Kaiserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05020082243968071584noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-58522472781655126742021-06-13T12:37:31.008-04:002021-06-13T12:37:31.008-04:00Professor
Here is a contribution to this classic p...Professor<br />Here is a contribution to this classic post:<br /><br />Wilkerson, caste.<br />I just opened this thing to chapter 2, by accident.<br /><br />I have never read so carefully and seductively crafted a piece of malevolently false, cynical, misleading, degenerate, and dangerous piece of propaganda in my life.<br /><br />It really puts even something like Mein Kampf, from the German right, in the shade.<br /><br />A work of frankly outrageous radical limpid graphic arousing dastardly prose fiction fantasy.<br /><br />Nothing, almost, nonfiction about it. Such facts as there are are designed to support the false superstructure. <br /><br />Wilkerson uses such analogies, from many fields, to create a compelling pastiche narrative "account". <br /><br />MLK had a dream.<br /><br />This is Wilkerson's nightmare.<br /><br />I cannot tell them apart, as haunting false dangerous self serving fantasies.<br /><br />Speaking white racism truth to white liberal Stokely power,<br /><br />is preaching to the choir for a black mulatto racist negress.<br /><br />Jessica Krug, a faux negro Jewess Stokely, Shaun King faux mulatto,<br /><br />and various LGBTQThey Hindi Stokelys, Manjoo, are also in the choir.<br /><br />Scanning her notes, the book is really a disguised attack on antisemitism, enshrouded, enrobed, in an anti white racism crust. Chapter after chapter are informed by European and American anti Semitism references, more so than white racist versus negroes ones. Take a look, and count them.<br /><br />I suspect it is ghost written by a team from the NYT. <br /><br />Perhaps Jake Silverstein oversaw the project.<br /><br />This post is dedicated to Randy Fertel, for his work on improv. <br /><br />He probably thinks Wilkerson is great, which, of course, is where Randy and I differ.<br /><br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-38430923031055187282020-10-30T23:15:05.047-04:002020-10-30T23:15:05.047-04:00Professor
History is unfolding rapidly, and quick...Professor<br /><br />History is unfolding rapidly, and quickening now, on the topic of so called populist protests, however one defines the slippery left or right pejorative term "populism". <br /><br />I give it also a decided racist and religious connotation, left and right, and all creeds, on my site, because it has so often been glossed over here, used mainly by the left to lambast the domestic right, leaving a world brimming with vigorous racist sectarians of color largely unexamined.<br /><br />While it may seem that such protests as the yellow vests, for example, or the Polish abortion legislation protests, or protests in East Russia, or HK, or COVID return to lockdown protests everywhere, are not connected, according to some analyses, I would argue that they all, recently now, somehow, parasitically even, feed on the postmodernist, widening, legitimization of nonviolent or violent protests, in any and all societies, on any political social or religious issue whatsoever, for which the 1619 Project, and then the related BLM initiative, served to widen the opening in awareness, globally, of the lack of political and law and order obstacles to protest actions.<br /><br />All the best Bozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-41463467355609752352020-07-17T14:19:54.904-04:002020-07-17T14:19:54.904-04:00Professor
Just another update, with history unfold...Professor<br />Just another update, with history unfolding.<br />This theme, global oppression and white racism, having been long fanned and promoted here by the NYT for its own other agendas, has now erupted in random race related protests in major Western cities, the long conflicts within Ethiopia for example.<br /><br />It is one thing to have American negroes protesting "American inequality" or "American slavery", right or wrong, in American cities. <br /><br />As I have noted, however, even this has had an activist non negro ideological globalist Socialist backing, from the beginning.<br /><br />What we are now seeing, however, is quite another thing altogether, both here and in Europe, even from that pathetic situation.<br /><br />All the best Bozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-2072012171009465812020-07-06T12:26:40.267-04:002020-07-06T12:26:40.267-04:00Professor
Your readers may appreciate this analogy...Professor<br />Your readers may appreciate this analogy, maybe not.<br /><br />The 1619 Project, and the treatment of the George Floyd case, have analogies, in scope, to some stories the NYT has run in the past, as news stories.<br />The Kitty Genovese Story, a news story, implicitly indicted all Americans, similarly to how the 1619 Story reads for white Americans, and to how the Floyd Story reads for cops.<br />The Kitty Genovese Story turned out to be completely wrong in every way. She was definitely killed. And unfortunately Floyd was killed too I believe. <br />I am not suggesting that they falsified the Floyd story, but it seems to function in tandem with the problematic 1619 account nevertheless. <br />The NYT, many decades later, apologized in print for the Genovese Story.<br />You can read about it.<br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-75917464483385331572020-06-26T23:42:16.365-04:002020-06-26T23:42:16.365-04:00Professor
How about Shaun King? He wants to tear d...Professor<br />How about Shaun King? He wants to tear down monuments (presumably including churches) connected with Jesus, a white racist. Trump's new Executive Order specifically references King.<br />I had noted on my site that this would spread much farther than mere Southern token white racists, to Northern founding fathers and beyond to all of Western Civilization.That prediction has already come true.<br />Now it looks more and more like a full on August 24, 1572 St Bartholomew's Day kind of thing, coming soon to a theater near you.<br />All the best,Bozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-8189600645792260302020-05-29T14:48:08.499-04:002020-05-29T14:48:08.499-04:00Professor
Revisiting this matter, I tend to think ...Professor<br />Revisiting this matter, I tend to think that fear of a slave revolts on a large scale would have been tantamount to emancipation had it occurred. Certainly the evidence is there for the British having tried to foment them.<br /><br />Having read Parkinson's article, from several years before, fleshes out a better case than the 1619 Project account for the importance of this issue.<br /><br />Friday, September 30, 2016<br />https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/04/opinion/did-a-fear-of-slave-revolts-drive-american-independence.html<br /><br />Jefferson's rough draft is also a good context source. It does not seem that the Crown forced slavery on the colonies. <br /><br />Until after the Seven Years War, the Crown had had difficulty forcing anything on them, even when it had tried. The Dominion Of New England is just one isolated example.<br /><br />All in all, the hypocrisy moniker seems to me to fit rather well with colonial motivations.<br /><br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-24745067959122557562020-04-05T04:52:37.370-04:002020-04-05T04:52:37.370-04:00Fascinating discussion. Similarly as history is re...Fascinating discussion. Similarly as history is rewritten based on modern prejudice, current events are quite twisted to suit political purposes. Both of these were parodied in Orwell's 1984. History is constantly rewritten to fit the current party line. Thank God there is real source material to draw on. It is not all virtual. We can go down quite the rabbit hole of our own political prejudices if we are not careful as those Times editors seem to have done. Objectivity over emotion is incredibly difficult when dealing with such broad issues as race, religion, national identities. 'My country right or wrong' said many before Vietnam. My father said catholicism ws the one true church. We see the abuse scandals there and how people leave the church. The current schism in American ppolitics has its current roots as we have often discussed here in the 1960s. This trend is apparent in the 1619 project. Identity politics is overemphasized in general, creating unneccessary divisions, microaggressions, fake news instead of professional journalism. Now this coronavirus could be exactly the big crisis hat you continue to say 9/11 was. 80 years after WWII it would be expected. This could bring the country together and heal those festering wounds as the community comes together with a new purpose of rebuilding infrastructure, manufacturing capacity lost abroad and hopefully reducing useless foreign miltary engagements, weapons manufacrurers. If covid-19 reveals our globalised JIT system as flawed it could revitalize local and national identities against dehumanizing globalization. I saw a film where the rich live above the earth on a perfect garden of eden satellite while everyone else was impoverished here below. The reality of centralized global conntrol by the rich today and the rebellion in many nations against it(brexit,Trump) is very similar to the rebellion against imperial Britain by the colonists. Meanwhile those same globalists play divide et impera everywhere to destroy aspirations of national sovereignty against the wealthy globalist agenda. In the case of the 1619 project this agenda is aimed at the highly educated, convincing them that the foundation of America was racism, meaning America, like Nazi Germany, the ultimate horror of the last crisis, is effectively illegitimate as a construct and in effect that all national borders are racst constructs, that nobody has a right to any homeland as such anywhere. This propagated reeducation of the global elite then lands in the textbooks of all the children everywhere as the plutocrats plan to use this or another crisis to expand their control. The plutocrats know the reality. Their useful idiots at the NYT like Pravda editors are mere pawns. Power is an aphrodisiac. 'History'is an ideological tool. Rewrite history and you control the future. This is not just a battle over some obscure past occurrences but of our ability to live together in harmony without megacorps, huge financial institutins, militaries Rome like destroying every bit of personal autonomy, in Estonia, Iowa, Bolivia, Yemen, Uganda. Energyflowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14476915209268786507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-9902478431945882952020-04-05T02:02:47.201-04:002020-04-05T02:02:47.201-04:00Dear Professor Kaiser:
I really like your contribu...Dear Professor Kaiser:<br />I really like your contribution to this debate because of the dispassionate tone and dedication to seeking the evidence. I particularly like the way in which you point out that taking Lord Dunmore's proclamation as causal in the American War of Independence is to place the effect before the cause. Time and sequence are crucial in all historical studies, including my own speciality, archaeology.<br /><br />There is, however, one misconception which I would, respectfully, like to point out. You state that, 'As the late Pauline Maier documented at length in her book on the Declaration of Independence, Inventing America, the swing towards independence had much more to do with George III’s decision to send armed forces, including foreign mercenaries, to subdue the colonies, and his refusal to discuss a settlement with them, than anything else.' But while it is true that the colonists so perceived matters, and while George III definitely approved of the action, it was not HE who sent those armed forces, but his Prime Minister, Lord North. What the colonists, and many within Great Britain, failed to recognize is that there had been a major constitutional change within Great Britain, from an absolute monarchy, in which the monarch WAS the executive, to a constitutional monarchy, in which an elected minister of the monarch (not yet actually called the Prime Minister) governed in the name of the monarch. To say that George III took the actions mentioned is like saying that Elizabeth II sent the British military to the Falkland Islands, an action of which she doubtless approved. <br />Best wishes,<br />Rupert ChapmanRupert Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07007234333289329849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-9030356083816260672020-04-04T16:02:10.242-04:002020-04-04T16:02:10.242-04:00Professor
I think it is wonderful that you are und...Professor<br />I think it is wonderful that you are undertaking such an inquiry. I have been posting bits on these themes, but had not thought that you would take them up seriously.<br /><br />The discussion in your post seems to me to be one between mainly two dueling Whig interpretations of the causes of the American Rebellion or Revolution, and the role of slavery within it, and as a cause.<br /><br />My own view is that this debate, interesting as it sometimes is, nevertheless misses most of the actual ideological and theological underpinnings of the colonial rebellion. <br /><br />It was not, for the colonists themselves, North or South, so much about either losing their slaves (one big element of their trade and commerce both north and south) on the one hand; or about taxes and representation on the other, although that was typically how Northern, mainly religious, publicists framed the issues for southern readers in a secular vernacular, whose religions were different from those of the north. <br /><br />The slavery card was how Lord Dunmore proceeded, but no one seriously thought that Britain would try to abolish slavery in the colonies with desperate British factories all clamoring for American cotton.<br /><br />I suggest answers to these questions are best found in The Language of Liberty 1660-1832 Political discourse and social dynamics in the Anglo-American world.<br /><br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.com