tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post6933500771155572395..comments2024-03-29T02:03:49.151-04:00Comments on History Unfolding: Impeachment: An historical perspectiveDavid Kaiserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05020082243968071584noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-65794869870728794482019-05-18T23:52:58.451-04:002019-05-18T23:52:58.451-04:00Professor
Fn 2, re obstruction:
Obstruction appli...Professor<br />Fn 2, re obstruction:<br /><br />Obstruction applies in both judicial and non judicial contexts.<br />The specifically judicial statute is 18 USC 1503, not the one I had quoted.<br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-37971409845464954942019-05-18T13:05:41.470-04:002019-05-18T13:05:41.470-04:00This says more about Congress than about the presi...This says more about Congress than about the presidents. If Nixon had this Congress and Trump had the Congress in 1973-74, no doubt that Trump would have been tossed out and Nixon would have finished his term of office.Shelterdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09973906960864702661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-8568626876314376772019-05-17T16:25:01.759-04:002019-05-17T16:25:01.759-04:00At the polls. Right. The 3 impeachments(including ...At the polls. Right. The 3 impeachments(including Trump) were partisan politics. Nixon the 4th was clearly criminal and would have deserved jail. The latest situation was however not just partisan fishing expedition a la whitewater but rather, as it seems by all indications, entrapment, espionage by loyal partisans at FBI, CIA, Justice Dept. And that is before the election. After he was elected the charge is high treason as Trump is President. Against Andrew Johnson the whole matter seemed worse than even that but one would have to admit that the Civil War was illegal as states had the right of seccession. As we see now in Brexit, law and logic have little effect when emotions are so strong. Divorce is very messy. So dirty tricks between dems and repubs is fair play but revenge also from the Trump team on worst players against him. This will draw a line in the sand for future players in bureaucracy who also have party loyalties wanting to form independent policy, going beyond acceptably legal role. The British series Yes Minister gone wild is what happened here. Your Kennedy Assasination book with its well balanced analysis of players, motives, nonpartisan analysis going beyond lone assassin or CIA plot to more nuanced view is called for. Actually this is high drama.<br /><br />I read that the rebuttal of obstruction of justice charge was key to Trump's success. Obstruction only counts in a court case/legal proceedings. Apparently Trump is going to take congress apart for overstepping authority. Good lawyers. Watergate has its revenge. The presidency is back with full brutal authority. No more 60s weakness. Power consolidation will now take place behind executive branch. So the crisis renewal stage can start. 2020 election will consolidate Trump's power as dems keep believing their own propaganda, like any other false flag. Only you can't get elected focusing on a false narrative while voters see wrong policies ignored. Identity politics only goes so far. Trump made his name into a trademark like coke or Apple. That is the ultimate in identity politics. He knows his business. They can't outplay the master of the game here. They hate him 'personally', this is worse than any charge or reality of sexism, racism against him which are oh so abstract. He just uses this tactic to distract them from serious campaigning and governing. It worked. He got elected, now he has smoked out the worst extremists in the bureaucracy. Essentially he is a lightning rod for hatred, adoration on both sides. Perfect for uniting the country after everyone's 'shadow' in jung's sense has been cleansed. So perhaps Trump is a blessing. No Civil War, no WWIII, just a national psychological cleansing through an arrogant playboy billionaire sometimes democrat, sometimes republican but always just himself. Sort of a rogue James Bond or a Bourne identity film. Energyflowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14476915209268786507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-27833494741203258652019-05-17T15:45:26.792-04:002019-05-17T15:45:26.792-04:00Professor
Just a fn:
Perjury is a whole lot cleane...Professor<br />Just a fn:<br />Perjury is a whole lot cleaner, it seems to me, to prosecute than obstruction.<br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8746692.post-55183446634474828642019-05-17T15:39:17.952-04:002019-05-17T15:39:17.952-04:00Professor
Very interesting historical and comparat...Professor<br />Very interesting historical and comparative article.<br />I disagree about the history re Johnson, but will save my comments for my blog.<br />It may be useful to just look at 18 USC 1505, to get a flavor of how it can be used and abused:<br /><br />"Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up, destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another to do so; or<br /><br />Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—<br /><br />Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both."<br /><br />All the bestBozonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18078858723231122013noreply@blogger.com